Comments on: Does God Want You To Be Rich? http://marcdav.wordpress.com/2006/09/14/does-god-want-you-to-be-rich/ Reflections on the biblical themes of Shabbat, Pentecost, Jubilee, and how they relate to Jesus' Kingdom, and whatever strikes my fancy Thu, 03 Jul 2008 23:06:02 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=MU By: William E Smith http://marcdav.wordpress.com/2006/09/14/does-god-want-you-to-be-rich/#comment-6256 William E Smith Mon, 24 Sep 2007 20:28:31 +0000 http://marcdav.wordpress.com/2006/09/14/does-god-want-you-to-be-rich/#comment-6256 Why are Christians so caught up in this prosperity Gospel? The Hebrew word "prosper" has little to do with money and possessions and more to do with security, peace and spiritual riches. How much money did Jesus have? Have you ever seen a "U-Haul" trailer behind a hearse? How much money and possessions will YOU have with you when you stand before the throne? The prosperity Gospel is nothing more than a type of Baalism. Baal was the god who gave you what you wanted. Put him in your field and you will have a good harvest. Put him near your money and it will grow. Why is it that prosperity churches are the poorest? (with the exception of the ministers) If wealth is a sign of God's favour then the Roman Catholics must be God's favourite church - after all they have more wealth than all the other churches put together. It's not good enough to say "Oh well! Creflo Dollar also teaches some good things as well" Can sweet water come from a bitter well? - His wardrobe alone could feed an African family for twenty years. Why are Christians so caught up in this prosperity Gospel? The Hebrew word “prosper” has little to do with money and possessions and more to do with security, peace and spiritual riches. How much money did Jesus have? Have you ever seen a “U-Haul” trailer behind a hearse? How much money and possessions will YOU have with you when you stand before the throne? The prosperity Gospel is nothing more than a type of Baalism. Baal was the god who gave you what you wanted. Put him in your field and you will have a good harvest. Put him near your money and it will grow. Why is it that prosperity churches are the poorest? (with the exception of the ministers) If wealth is a sign of God’s favour then the Roman Catholics must be God’s favourite church - after all they have more wealth than all the other churches put together. It’s not good enough to say “Oh well! Creflo Dollar also teaches some good things as well” Can sweet water come from a bitter well? - His wardrobe alone could feed an African family for twenty years.

]]> By: kctulley http://marcdav.wordpress.com/2006/09/14/does-god-want-you-to-be-rich/#comment-5902 kctulley Thu, 06 Sep 2007 23:54:22 +0000 http://marcdav.wordpress.com/2006/09/14/does-god-want-you-to-be-rich/#comment-5902 I feel its true God gives us what we need or can handle. I have recently gone through some finacil sruggles. I know that God doesnt want us poor. But he has a great way of drawing us closer to him or the other choice of not following him. Going through these struggles I have found myself on my knees weeping to my father. I have drawn so close to him. I would have never gone through these growing pains if I have had what I wanted. I would of probably gone on like I had been doing before. He has great plans for me and yes things are getting much better. DO to my father. I feel its true God gives us what we need or can handle. I have recently gone through some finacil sruggles. I know that God doesnt want us poor. But he has a great way of drawing us closer to him or the other choice of not following him. Going through these struggles I have found myself on my knees weeping to my father. I have drawn so close to him. I would have never gone through these growing pains if I have had what I wanted. I would of probably gone on like I had been doing before. He has great plans for me and yes things are getting much better. DO to my father.

]]> By: CovenantBride http://marcdav.wordpress.com/2006/09/14/does-god-want-you-to-be-rich/#comment-5055 CovenantBride Tue, 14 Aug 2007 23:53:36 +0000 http://marcdav.wordpress.com/2006/09/14/does-god-want-you-to-be-rich/#comment-5055 jesus said, if any man will follow me, let him deny himself, pick up his cross and follow me...this is far from the prospertiy gospels preached...u cannot live like the world and also deny self...we are suppose to decrease so that Christ can increase...but at every turn the preachs are sayin we suppose to increase cuz Christ paid for it at the cross... we enter in at a narrow gate and walk a narrow path... but ppl who claim that worldly goods dont matter to them but spend excessively to keep their flesh in every comfort and then some, are deceived and their preachin is deception...fleshly comfort is sayin 'peace, peace but there is no peace'... no man can serve 2 masters; no man can serve God and mammon; the love of money is the root of every evil...the Word of God is so clear against prosperity preachin...and if u wanna say they dont always preach prosperity, u only have to see them -- lifestyles of the rich and shameless -- to see what they really beleive...they preachin louder wit they cars and clothes than with the few moments they give lip service to the Word of God... be bless... -g- jesus said, if any man will follow me, let him deny himself, pick up his cross and follow me…this is far from the prospertiy gospels preached…u cannot live like the world and also deny self…we are suppose to decrease so that Christ can increase…but at every turn the preachs are sayin we suppose to increase cuz Christ paid for it at the cross…

we enter in at a narrow gate and walk a narrow path…

but ppl who claim that worldly goods dont matter to them but spend excessively to keep their flesh in every comfort and then some, are deceived and their preachin is deception…fleshly comfort is sayin ‘peace, peace but there is no peace’…

no man can serve 2 masters; no man can serve God and mammon; the love of money is the root of every evil…the Word of God is so clear against prosperity preachin…and if u wanna say they dont always preach prosperity, u only have to see them — lifestyles of the rich and shameless — to see what they really beleive…they preachin louder wit they cars and clothes than with the few moments they give lip service to the Word of God…

be bless… -g-

]]> By: Christina http://marcdav.wordpress.com/2006/09/14/does-god-want-you-to-be-rich/#comment-5035 Christina Tue, 14 Aug 2007 18:07:29 +0000 http://marcdav.wordpress.com/2006/09/14/does-god-want-you-to-be-rich/#comment-5035 I'm sorry to say this, but it is obvious that those of you who are writing these things about these "so -called prosper-preaching ministers" have never really listened to them, or have listened to more than one or two sermons. Anyone who has listened IN DETAIL to any one of these ministers KNOWS that they preach about WAY MORE than just prosperity. Creflo Dollar is a PRIME example. That man teaches ALOT about our responsibility as Christians through the LIVING WORD OF GOD. He is one of the ONLY ministers that preaches the word so that we can actually APPLY it to our lives....alot of other preachers don't even tell you how to apply the Word to your life. They only tell a good story. It is just such a shame that people who don't do their research comment on such things and only focus and elaborate on something that could put these people in a wrong light. Let' s stop tearing each other down, and instead build up those that are doing GOOD works for the Kingdom of God. I’m sorry to say this, but it is obvious that those of you who are writing these things about these “so -called prosper-preaching ministers” have never really listened to them, or have listened to more than one or two sermons. Anyone who has listened IN DETAIL to any one of these ministers KNOWS that they preach about WAY MORE than just prosperity. Creflo Dollar is a PRIME example. That man teaches ALOT about our responsibility as Christians through the LIVING WORD OF GOD. He is one of the ONLY ministers that preaches the word so that we can actually APPLY it to our lives….alot of other preachers don’t even tell you how to apply the Word to your life. They only tell a good story. It is just such a shame that people who don’t do their research comment on such things and only focus and elaborate on something that could put these people in a wrong light. Let’ s stop tearing each other down, and instead build up those that are doing GOOD works for the Kingdom of God.

]]> By: marcdav http://marcdav.wordpress.com/2006/09/14/does-god-want-you-to-be-rich/#comment-4033 marcdav Mon, 30 Jul 2007 18:40:10 +0000 http://marcdav.wordpress.com/2006/09/14/does-god-want-you-to-be-rich/#comment-4033 Jesus asked "What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?" He also said that the love of money is the root of all sorts of evil. Further, we see in the book of Acts that the believers regarded worldly wealth so little, that they gave everything away. No, I don't see a command that we are to live in poverty, but also don't see a command that we are focus on accumulating wealth. What I do see is a command by Jesus to seek first the Kingdom of God. Jesus asked “What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?” He also said that the love of money is the root of all sorts of evil. Further, we see in the book of Acts that the believers regarded worldly wealth so little, that they gave everything away. No, I don’t see a command that we are to live in poverty, but also don’t see a command that we are focus on accumulating wealth. What I do see is a command by Jesus to seek first the Kingdom of God.

]]> By: Kerry Cohen http://marcdav.wordpress.com/2006/09/14/does-god-want-you-to-be-rich/#comment-3866 Kerry Cohen Thu, 26 Jul 2007 02:42:48 +0000 http://marcdav.wordpress.com/2006/09/14/does-god-want-you-to-be-rich/#comment-3866 Show me one place in the Bible where it says we are supposed to be poor. You won't find it, nor will you find where we're supposed to be sick. Take a quick glance at Deut 28:1-14 that will explain exactly what you are entitled to as a believer and follower of His word. Instead of just listening, you should research for yourself. God is not a respector of persons, the blessing of prosperity is for everyone who will believe. Hosea 4:6 My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge! Show me one place in the Bible where it says we are supposed to be poor. You won’t find it, nor will you find where we’re supposed to be sick. Take a quick glance at Deut 28:1-14 that will explain exactly what you are entitled to as a believer and follower of His word. Instead of just listening, you should research for yourself. God is not a respector of persons, the blessing of prosperity is for everyone who will believe.

Hosea 4:6 My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge!

]]> By: chukwuzurum http://marcdav.wordpress.com/2006/09/14/does-god-want-you-to-be-rich/#comment-2200 chukwuzurum Tue, 12 Jun 2007 01:00:04 +0000 http://marcdav.wordpress.com/2006/09/14/does-god-want-you-to-be-rich/#comment-2200 in my first comment i made a mistake .please read Galatians chapter 3 not chapter 5. i apologize.thanx. in my first comment i made a mistake .please read Galatians chapter 3 not chapter 5. i apologize.thanx.

]]> By: chukwuzurum http://marcdav.wordpress.com/2006/09/14/does-god-want-you-to-be-rich/#comment-2199 chukwuzurum Tue, 12 Jun 2007 00:56:08 +0000 http://marcdav.wordpress.com/2006/09/14/does-god-want-you-to-be-rich/#comment-2199 take that poverty mentality off your mind today give your life over to Jesus, a, stay holy and apply the principles of prosperity in Christ Jesus, then you will see the great difference in your life.(obadaih verse17). The problem with most christians is that they dont study the bible so they end up in the traps of the devil which include poverty.as Christians kingdom success is our birthright. study the bible verses i gave you and you will see that for your self. prosperity is one of the key reasons why Jesus died on the cross for us (Galatians 3 verses 13 and 14).wake up . you too can be rich like Creflo Dollar and his friends who discovered these secrets and believed them and applied them . Go and look at their beginnings, it wasnt that rosy.you as a Christian are meant to be excedingly rich.(2nd corinthians 9 (meditate on vs 6-8)). God bless you!!!(do you want to know more?do you have any info on Godly prosperity to share ? send an email to ugojiogbu@yahoo.com) take that poverty mentality off your mind today give your life over to Jesus, a, stay holy and apply the principles of prosperity in Christ Jesus, then you will see the great difference in your life.(obadaih verse17). The problem with most christians is that they dont study the bible so they end up in the traps of the devil which include poverty.as Christians kingdom success is our birthright. study the bible verses i gave you and you will see that for your self. prosperity is one of the key reasons why Jesus died on the cross for us (Galatians 3 verses 13 and 14).wake up . you too can be rich like Creflo Dollar and his friends who discovered these secrets and believed them and applied them . Go and look at their beginnings, it wasnt that rosy.you as a Christian are meant to be excedingly rich.(2nd corinthians 9 (meditate on vs 6-8)). God bless you!!!(do you want to know more?do you have any info on Godly prosperity to share ? send an email to ugojiogbu@yahoo.com)

]]> By: chukwuzurum http://marcdav.wordpress.com/2006/09/14/does-god-want-you-to-be-rich/#comment-2198 chukwuzurum Tue, 12 Jun 2007 00:32:16 +0000 http://marcdav.wordpress.com/2006/09/14/does-god-want-you-to-be-rich/#comment-2198 i strongly believe that Christians should be prosperous people because their God and father is the owner of the earth , and he isn't poor, he is mega rich.(psalms 24 verse 1) all the silver and gold are his... there are many christians who once were poor but through the teachings of Kenneth Copeland, Creflo Dollar , David Oyedepo etc, they are rich today by applying the principles of prosperity in Christ Jesus that work all over the earth.... it all starts with a genuine love for a God and a geniune thirst for him to use you for his kingdom expansion agenda on earth. there is no way God will give you an assignment without making you prosperous enough( wealthy enough, healthy enough, wise enough )to carry it out. He makes us prosperous so that we can seek his kingdom expansion agenda on earth, and bless people around us. Most of the prosperity preachers of our time were once poor but today they are rich because they yielded their lives for God to use. if you have any doubts about Godly prosperity, and you believe that the word of God as written in the Bible is true then i advice you to read the following scriptures that will change your mentality....psalms 35 verse27, isaiah 60, zecharaiah 1 verse 17, proverbs 10vs22, Galatians 5.why should we suffer in lack and want when we have a father who is good , kind and loving?he gives his people all things richly to enjoy(1st timothy 6 vs 17)he is no respecter of persons. if you do what he says he would prosper you. (Acts of the apostles 10vs 35). Indeed,God blesses people. i strongly believe that Christians should be prosperous people because their God and father is the owner of the earth , and he isn’t poor, he is mega rich.(psalms 24 verse 1) all the silver and gold are his… there are many christians who once were poor but through the teachings of Kenneth Copeland, Creflo Dollar , David Oyedepo etc, they are rich today by applying the principles of prosperity in Christ Jesus that work all over the earth…. it all starts with a genuine love for a God and a geniune thirst for him to use you for his kingdom expansion agenda on earth. there is no way God will give you an assignment without making you prosperous enough( wealthy enough, healthy enough, wise enough )to carry it out. He makes us prosperous so that we can seek his kingdom expansion agenda on earth, and bless people around us. Most of the prosperity preachers of our time were once poor but today they are rich because they yielded their lives for God to use. if you have any doubts about Godly prosperity, and you believe that the word of God as written in the Bible is true then i advice you to read the following scriptures that will change your mentality….psalms 35 verse27, isaiah 60, zecharaiah 1 verse 17, proverbs 10vs22, Galatians 5.why should we suffer in lack and want when we have a father who is good , kind and loving?he gives his people all things richly to enjoy(1st timothy 6 vs 17)he is no respecter of persons. if you do what he says he would prosper you. (Acts of the apostles 10vs 35). Indeed,God blesses people.

]]> By: Kim http://marcdav.wordpress.com/2006/09/14/does-god-want-you-to-be-rich/#comment-680 Kim Thu, 19 Apr 2007 21:02:19 +0000 http://marcdav.wordpress.com/2006/09/14/does-god-want-you-to-be-rich/#comment-680 The issue here is the blantant hypocrisy of prosperity preachers. How can you say you're a Christian who believes in the richness of heaven, when your primary focus is on the riches of the world? It's not wrong for a Christian to be wealthy, but it is wrong for a Christian to idolize wealth the same way he idolizes God. Secondly, if the only reason you have faith in God is in hopes of being rich, then obviously your faith is flawed, to say the least. Basically, a pastor can have a million dollar house and drive a mercedes and still be a man of God. But when he starts to use wealth as a reason for worship, then there is a problem. He's become a man of mankind. The issue here is the blantant hypocrisy of prosperity preachers. How can you say you’re a Christian who believes in the richness of heaven, when your primary focus is on the riches of the world?

It’s not wrong for a Christian to be wealthy, but it is wrong for a Christian to idolize wealth the same way he idolizes God. Secondly, if the only reason you have faith in God is in hopes of being rich, then obviously your faith is flawed, to say the least.

Basically, a pastor can have a million dollar house and drive a mercedes and still be a man of God. But when he starts to use wealth as a reason for worship, then there is a problem. He’s become a man of mankind.

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